Non Magnetic 308 Prvi Partizan 762x51 Nato Ammo 145 Grain M80 Review

Mikej · Oct 25, 2020

I'grand needing to selection upward some 7.62 NATO ammo for an M14 blazon burglarize. The manufacturer recommends 7.62 NATO. I sympathize why through a bunch of reading, brass thickness/pressure etc. Perusing the webs I see directly .308 Win, and 7.62 X 51, and some that says 7.62 NATO, on the characterization. Is ammo that'south labeled 7.62 X 51 and seven.62 NATO the same? I'm hoping to become reloadable brass. And then some countries stuff that'southward been in caves since 1950 with berdan priming isn't preferred. Nor is steel instance seeing as it's not that much cheaper than contumely is. Then, considering the times? I'thousand relegated to paying close to a buck a round...Though I did notice this stuff which appears to be reloadable. I just don't know if "M80" ways NATO. Or if it's crimped?

elsie

M80 is the designation for standard vii.62x51 ball ammo.

elsie

Mikej

M80 is the designation for standard seven.62x51 ball ammo.
elsie

Thanks Elsie....I pretty much confirmed that M80 IS NATO.
M80 ball ammo is a type of ammunition used in machine guns. It is mostly used on people who aren't armored, and it has other names equally well. The tips of the bullets are usually not painted, and they work with m60 machine guns. Its other names include. 308 Winchester, vii.26 NATO, and seven.62 x 51mm.Dec 22, 2019

"Ball" mayhap? besides. Withal I've heard Brawl used for years referring to full metal jacketed .45 acp round olfactory organ. And other calibers besides. I notwithstanding don't know if ammo labeled "7.62 10 51 always refers to NATO spec ammo though? But the above states that plainly I judge.

Ops

at that price i should sell some of my 308

powermad

7.62x51 and 7.62 NATO is a armed services round made to military specs.
seven.62 NATO will have the cantankerous and meets NATO specs for 7.62x51.
Other 7.62x51 like PPU are made to those specs just haven't been tested and approved and then they don't go the circle cross stamp.

powermad

The last fourth dimension I bought canned vii.62x51 was Federal Lake City for $.70 ea.
I picked upwardly some Portuguese vii.62 NATO around the same time for $.45 ea simply they are Berdan primed.

Check ammoseek for ammo online.
$.75 ea Prvi Partizan (PPU) - 7.62X51 - 145 Grain - FMJBT - 500 Rounds - Truthful Shot Gun Lodge
$.86 ea for the stuff you linked.

I haven't shot any PPU vii.62x51 but have used their 5.56x45 and 9mm NATO spec ammo and it'due south skillful stuff.

Mikej

The concluding time I bought canned 7.62x51 was Federal Lake City for $.70 ea.
I picked upwardly some Portuguese 7.62 NATO around the same time for $.45 ea merely they are Berdan primed.
Check ammoseek for ammo online.
$.75 ea Prvi Partizan (PPU) - 7.62X51 - 145 Grain - FMJBT - 500 Rounds - Truthful Shot Gun Club
$.86 ea for the stuff you linked.

I oasis't shot whatever PPU 7.62x51 but have used their 5.56x45 and 9mm NATO spec ammo and it's good stuff.

That PPU was what I merely bought. I just bought 200 though. Seemed like too much to get 500 at this time.

tac · Oct 25, 2020

PPU ammunition is not only good stuff, but the brass is excellent - sold to Grafs and Wolf, BTW.

NB - If you are going to shoot this in an M14 [?] do NOT shoot ANY .308Win ammunition. The military case has a rounded internal shape to the base, where more meat is needed to suffer existence dragged out of a Gatling gun at 6000 rpm - the Mini-Gun, IOW.

The commercial version that is similar, just Not the same as the 7.62x51 is the practiced former .308Win, which has a different internal depiction with a bigger load chapters. That equals more velocity and higher pressure by around x% than the armed services cartridge, even though they appear to be as identical as they possibly can.

No incertitude your M14 could put up with it, simply why try?

NATO Service ammunition, BTW, is all around the 145 - 155gr mark, only .308Win is readily bachelor with up to 190gr bullets. We used to use Hirtenbirger 190gr stuff in our sniping rifles in my bit of the Army. When necessary, of grade.

The initial seven.62x51 bullet weighed just 147gr, if that kind of thing interests you. Subsequently changed to 150gr every bit general issue thoughout NATO.

tac's handy helpful bleeve it or don't #9334 -

The discussion 'Ball' is used for ALL FMJ bullets, regardless of shape. It is, of form, a abuse of Old French - 'baille'/ball when ALL projectiles fired from a gun WERE a brawl. A minor ball, in French, is chosen a 'baillette', from which nosotros get the word 'bullet'. Cet'united nations p'tit monde, northward'est-ce-pas?

tac · October 25, 2020

Chortle......OHV = Ordnance Factory Vindaloo. Audio familiar to y'all?

Yup, it's the aforementioned town that the ultra-hot curry originated. The OHV armament that was bought for the British Military machine after the Falklands war depleted the state of war stocks was such utter due south*ite that when we fired the 9mmP stuff in the Sterling SMG information technology would invariably empty the magazine, not having enough free energy to blow the breechblock back far enough to engage the sear.

For the first fourth dimension in my life I could actually see a 9mmP bullet in flight every bit it came out of the muzzle in a rather leisurely arc, and bounced off the face of the hardboard target, leaving a small and pathetic fiddling dimple behind it.

The Indians had probably loaded them with curry powder....

Just don't ask well-nigh the 7.62x51 they provided....

tac

7.62x51 and seven.62 NATO is a armed forces circular made to military specs.
7.62 NATO will have the cross and meets NATO specs for 7.62x51.
Other 7.62x51 like PPU are made to those specs but oasis't been tested and approved so they don't get the circle cross postage stamp.

Here in Europe we get a lot of this stuff - GGG - Product

Information technology is authorised for ALL service shooting at Bisley, not only for the Noncombatant Service Rifle matches, simply for ALL military matches/competitions involving the use of either manual [for the civvies' or semi-auto [for the armed forces] shooting. Information technology is NOT economic system ammunition - it cost $1.39 per shot here.

Note that the British Ground forces, Regal Marines and RAF Regiment ALL use a variant of the LMT designated marksman service rifle with South&B scopes, and the GGG stuff is what they shoot in them. Fifty-fifty in Afghanistan...

Unless you are happy to ream out the primer pockets from the 120 caste stakings put there during manufacture, so it'south best to bin the empties, which is what I did this morning time.

Mikej

PPU ammunition is not only skilful stuff, but the brass is excellent - sold to Grafs and Wolf, BTW.
NB - If you are going to shoot this in an M14 [?] do NOT shoot Whatsoever .308Win ammunition. The armed forces case has a rounded internal shape to the base, where more meat is needed to suffer being dragged out of a Gatling gun at 6000 rpm - the Mini-Gun, IOW.

The commercial version that is similar, merely NOT the aforementioned as the 7.62x51 is the adept one-time .308Win, which has a different internal delineation with a bigger load chapters. That equals more velocity and higher pressure past effectually 10% than the armed forces cartridge, even though they announced to be equally identical equally they maybe tin can.

No incertitude your M14 could put up with information technology, simply why endeavour?

NATO Service armament, BTW, is all around the 145 - 155gr mark, but .308Win is readily available with up to 190gr bullets. We used to utilize Hirtenbirger 190gr stuff in our sniping rifles in my bit of the Ground forces. When necessary, of course.

The initial 7.62x51 bullet weighed just 147gr, if that kind of thing interests you. Subsequently changed to 150gr as general outcome thoughout NATO.

tac's handy helpful bleeve it or don't #9334 -

The word 'Ball' is used for ALL FMJ bullets, regardless of shape. It is, of course, a abuse of Quondam French - 'baille'/ball when ALL projectiles fired from a gun WERE a ball. A small-scale brawl, in French, is called a 'baillette', from which we go the give-and-take 'bullet'. Cet'un p'tit monde, n'est-ce-pas?

My want is to have the thicker brass. I'yard bold that "M80" designation is that thicker contumely. More durable = more loading + more than better.

tac

My desire is to have the thicker brass. I'yard assuming that "M80" designation is that thicker brass. More than durable = more loading + more ameliorate.

Non ALL surplus M80 ammunition is Boxer primed. Some is Berdan primed, requiring not only a special tool to remove the spent primer - I used to use a piece of shut-fitting dowel, water and a hammer - but hard-to-find Berdan primers to reload.

The stuff I mentioned - GGG - IS Boxer-primed, but had the primer staked in to prevent primer set-back.

And for the record -

M80 example capacity = 52gr of water.

Commercial .308Win instance capacity = 56gr of water.

That extra space CAN make a 50000psi load into a 65000psi load, with certain unwanted results.

Mikej

Not ALL surplus M80 ammunition is Boxer primed. Some is Berdan primed, requiring not just a special tool to remove the spent primer - I used to use a piece of close-plumbing fixtures dowel, h2o and a hammer - just difficult-to-notice Berdan primers to reload.
The stuff I mentioned - GGG - IS Boxer-primed, but had the primer staked in to prevent primer gear up-back.

And for the record -

M80 case chapters = 52gr of h2o.

Commercial .308Win case capacity = 56gr of water.

That extra space CAN make a 50000psi load into a 65000psi load, with certain unwanted results.

Aye! The fact loads should be kept on the lighter side is what I had discovered. I do not know if the PPU from the link in a higher place has crimped primers or not. I shall discover out, down the line. And if and so, will take appropriate steps to remedy the situation.

tac

Yes! The fact loads should be kept on the lighter side is what I had discovered. I practice not know if the PPU from the link above has crimped primers or non. I shall discover out, downwards the line. And if so, will accept appropriate steps to remedy the situation.

PPU armament is made for the civilian market, where the majority of users do non have a Mini-Gun. Information technology is regular-way primer pockets all the fashion.

tac · Oct 26, 2020

I'll refrain from recommending any particular load, specially in view of the fact that the concluding legally-owned semi-auto centrefire burglarize/carBEEN here in UK disappeared into the furnace back in 1986.

Suffice to to say that your M14 will beloved the Lapua Scenar or Palma Friction match bullet of around 155gr, and spread anything heavier around the landscape similar a a mad woman's shyte.

Mikej

I'll refrain from recommending whatever particular load, especially in view of the fact that the last legally-owned semi-auto centrefire burglarize/carBEEN here in UK disappeared into the furnace back in 1986.
Suffice to to say that your M14 will honey the Lapua Scenar or Palma Match bullet of a around 155gr, and spread anything heavier around the mural like a a mad woman's shyte.

The reality is, that it will be some fourth dimension earlier I'd be reloading for this beast. At this time I have a majority box of Sierra 150 gr HPBT Matchkings that I accept for the Garand.

tac

They'll practise nicely , just remember to bank check of OAL in the mag and all volition exist well.

powermad

Mike
I was doing an ammo inventory and constitute a bag of various 30-06 that I got with a reloading set at a thou sale years ago.
I'll never shoot them every bit I consider them components.
You can have them if you want them, about 35 rounds.

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Mikej

Mike
I was doing an ammo inventory and found a bag of various thirty-06 that I got with a reloading gear up at a yard sale years ago.
I'll never shoot them every bit I consider them components.
You lot can have them if you want them, about 35 rounds.
.

Thank you for the offering. I currently have enough of powder and components for ought-6. And enough of PPU unfired rounds still to empty.

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